So I posted on Facebook earlier HERE. As promised, a bit of feedback on what I thinks going on! Be sure to like the page…
Hopefully if anything, readers can avoid paying this bully. Maybe you’ll even profit from it?!
The video is a very obvious example with the wild staking. It seems to be coming clear this is happening on more or less all markets just lately, even if it behaves slightly different.
The poorer quality racing seems to be that bit more aggressive – like the clip above! However, on the better racing it’s there too just sitting outside the prices. Hogging certain prices, making it harder for traders to exit/enter positions unless it suits their cause. They must have a massive bank as the biggest exposure I’ve seen it appear with has been around the £300,000 mark!
Well out of my league.
I didn’t record this one at Galway below. Although the same routine.
I’ve highlighted the sudden flip in unmatched money across the book….
To say it was just a case of anything other than brutal manipulation would be foolish. If you look at the time and amounts matched, much like the clip above. The price moved rapidly without a lot of money being matched on the way, meaning half the money highlighted (definitely not all of it) is an illusion.
At least it’s more predictable in the less interesting races…
Obviously I exited a bit early but it’s really quite hard to tell when this individual is going to stop pushing. Or even worse; change and rip it back in an alternate direction!
I’m sure this individual is turning over huge sums of money, with massive profits and the occasional large loss. But like I say in the clip; if they are on 60% Premium Charge then you can’t blame them too much. Big losses and more turnover will just result in their commission being less.
It’s been speculated elsewhere by others that this person/team are matching their own money, which I think could be possible too. It’s pretty hard to work out though without seeing their screen or matched bets unfortunately.
All we can do is avoid them when its obvious. I find the most dangerous markets for me is when they don’t show their hand at all then plough in matching money first before loading up the prices so it doesn’t return.
The majority of the money in the market is without a doubt trader and Betfair bot money which makes it a bit easier for them at times. Particularly when there is less genuine bet turnover, as someone using larger stakes than most it feels as though lately I’m more noticeable to this untold force.
Maybe Betfair will do something about it? Unlikely.
I’ve recorded a few that I will put in the video pack soon. One with this force is pushing insanely with 20k stakes!!
Earlier on I took it on for a £2,500 stake and instantly £18,000 appeared on the opposing side of the ladder. Unless you can work it out. Which, is possible at times it’s probably best to avoid and not risk getting stuck in their trap! (this shouldn’t be confused with the genuine large staker).
Telling the difference at times can be hard though until it’s already happened…
It’s tough to say, although, if this user is the biggest in the market I don’t think there’s much chance of anyone stopping them. Time will tell I guess.
In the mean-time it’s best to learn about the market, how it functions and reacts. By doing this you put yourself in a better position to profit in such situations. Clearly whoever this is, they know exactly what’s going on in the market anyway. It’d be insanity otherwise… a big-fish would just swallow you whole.
That’s it for now, I’ll keep readers posted on my findings!